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	<title>Comments on: The Reflex Blue Show with Nate Voss and Donovan Beery, Episode 3</title>
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		<title>By: Geoff Thibeau</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Thibeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Justin said, Linotype has a store for buying fonts either in family suites or individual faces. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geoffthibeau.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/linotype-store.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Screenshot&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Justin said, Linotype has a store for buying fonts either in family suites or individual faces. <a href="http://www.geoffthibeau.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/linotype-store.png" rel="nofollow">Screenshot</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome show!
Did you hear about the $1,000 typeface because of a font being pirated by some guy named Randu?
&lt;a href=&quot;http://letterheadfonts.com/piracy/thousanddollarfont.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://letterheadfonts.com/piracy/thousanddollarfont.php&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome show!<br />
Did you hear about the $1,000 typeface because of a font being pirated by some guy named Randu?<br />
<a href="http://letterheadfonts.com/piracy/thousanddollarfont.php" rel="nofollow">http://letterheadfonts.com/piracy/thousanddollarfont.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ossum Opawesome</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Ossum Opawesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Named after astronomer Johannes Kepler.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linotype.com/57424/kepler-family.html#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.linotype.com/57424/kepler-family.html#&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Named after astronomer Johannes Kepler.<br />
<a href="http://www.linotype.com/57424/kepler-family.html#" rel="nofollow">http://www.linotype.com/57424/kepler-family.html#</a></p>
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		<title>By: kadavy</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>kadavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m embarrassed to find that there are versions of Kepler - amongst the 168 - that are Geometric Moderns, I&#039;m still puzzled at why they are still called &quot;Kepler.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m embarrassed to find that there are versions of Kepler &#8211; amongst the 168 &#8211; that are Geometric Moderns, I&#8217;m still puzzled at why they are still called &#8220;Kepler.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Paluch</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Paluch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate, iTunes for fonts has been available for awhile in Linotype&#039;s Font Explorer. Pricing isn&#039;t the same, but the interface was pretty close.
For as much as I&#039;d love the option of cheap, good fonts, I think that as designers we&#039;re overly hard on font pricing. We pay $350 for a stock photo with a one-time use license without batting an eye, but a $150, five-user license that allows for multiple uses of a font family seems ludicrous. The bright side, it&#039;s a work expense, and therefore, should be deductible. You may also be able to factor the cost of a font into your quote on a job, much like photography.
In terms of the educational version of fonts, I&#039;d really check out the EULA. As I recall, the old educational versions of Flash and Dreamweaver stated the boundaries of what they considered educational work in terms of things like print run quantity.
It&#039;s never made sense to me to pay for an educational version only to disregard the license. To my knowledge, you can&#039;t be kinda legitimate, it&#039;s one or the other. Always seemed like I could a) embrace my piratey-ness, b) fool yourself into thinking that you&#039;re not cheating the system so that you can sleep better at night, or c) pay up and be legal fo&#039; sho&#039;. I&#039;m not 100% yet, but I&#039;m trying to get there.
Also of note:  OS X (10.5) includes several weights and styles of Helvetica Neue. Take that, Comic Sans!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, iTunes for fonts has been available for awhile in Linotype&#8217;s Font Explorer. Pricing isn&#8217;t the same, but the interface was pretty close.<br />
For as much as I&#8217;d love the option of cheap, good fonts, I think that as designers we&#8217;re overly hard on font pricing. We pay $350 for a stock photo with a one-time use license without batting an eye, but a $150, five-user license that allows for multiple uses of a font family seems ludicrous. The bright side, it&#8217;s a work expense, and therefore, should be deductible. You may also be able to factor the cost of a font into your quote on a job, much like photography.<br />
In terms of the educational version of fonts, I&#8217;d really check out the EULA. As I recall, the old educational versions of Flash and Dreamweaver stated the boundaries of what they considered educational work in terms of things like print run quantity.<br />
It&#8217;s never made sense to me to pay for an educational version only to disregard the license. To my knowledge, you can&#8217;t be kinda legitimate, it&#8217;s one or the other. Always seemed like I could a) embrace my piratey-ness, b) fool yourself into thinking that you&#8217;re not cheating the system so that you can sleep better at night, or c) pay up and be legal fo&#8217; sho&#8217;. I&#8217;m not 100% yet, but I&#8217;m trying to get there.<br />
Also of note:  OS X (10.5) includes several weights and styles of Helvetica Neue. Take that, Comic Sans!</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan Beery</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan Beery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilary, I think the question you should be asking is what happened to the other 44 Keplers in your suitcase?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary, I think the question you should be asking is what happened to the other 44 Keplers in your suitcase?</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a spec artist for a newspaper advertising department and we have 124 Keplers in our suitcase. None of us really know why. I couldn&#039;t quit laughing when you guys mentioned this!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a spec artist for a newspaper advertising department and we have 124 Keplers in our suitcase. None of us really know why. I couldn&#8217;t quit laughing when you guys mentioned this!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Paluch</title>
		<link>http://www.36point.com/archives/2008/03/the-reflex-blue-show-with-nate-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Paluch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t listened to this one yet, but the recent release of Safari 3.1 had me thinking about an old BADGroup posting that deals with fonts:
Safari 3 supports CSS Web Fonts (amongst other things non-type related). This means that you should be able to use fonts installed on the server side of things, rather than just on the end users system. From what I&#039;ve read, it supports OpenType and TrueType. Given the pace at which these things take off, it&#039;ll be a long time until you can really use it. Still, pretty exciting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t listened to this one yet, but the recent release of Safari 3.1 had me thinking about an old BADGroup posting that deals with fonts:<br />
Safari 3 supports CSS Web Fonts (amongst other things non-type related). This means that you should be able to use fonts installed on the server side of things, rather than just on the end users system. From what I&#8217;ve read, it supports OpenType and TrueType. Given the pace at which these things take off, it&#8217;ll be a long time until you can really use it. Still, pretty exciting.</p>
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